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Подозрительный магазин с ооооооочень неплохими ценами
16:13:27 Onzek88: Здравствуйте 16:13:34 Onzek88: я по поводу Ipad 16:14:09 Rose Rowan: привет 16:14:09 Rose Rowan: привет 16:14:10 Rose Rowan: hello 16:14:25 Onzek88: они в наличии? 16:17:44 Rose Rowan: привет 16:17:57 Onzek88: что привет то? 16:18:16 Onzek88: they are in -stock now? 16:18:43 Rose Rowan: yes 16:18:50 Onzek88: where? 16:18:55 Rose Rowan: what exactly do you want 16:19:02 Onzek88: ipad 16:19:07 Rose Rowan: we are from UK 16:19:15 Onzek88: how much? 16:19:21 Onzek88: with postage 16:19:24 Onzek88: to rus 16:20:20 Rose Rowan: it cost 850USD 16:20:29 Onzek88: with postage? 16:20:36 Rose Rowan: yes 16:20:39 Onzek88: thanks 16:22:42 Rose Rowan: are you ready to buy now 16:22:44 Rose Rowan: ?? 16:23:21 Onzek88: nope) in Russia i can buy it for 750 USD 16:23:38 Rose Rowan: ok no problem 16:23:54 Rose Rowan: how much do you want to pay 16:32:48 Rose Rowan: you can pay 700USD 16:32:55 Rose Rowan: so that we can proceed further 16:33:19 Onzek88: d'you have a website? 16:35:22 Rose Rowan: yes 16:35:32 Rose Rowan: www.futurcommunications.com 16:36:34 Onzek88: are you kidding me? on your website price is about 550USD 16:37:09 Rose Rowan: ipad 1 is 550USD 16:37:17 Onzek88: oh 16:37:23 Rose Rowan: so ipad 2 pay 700USD 16:37:31 Onzek88: mmmmm 16:37:32 Onzek88: nice 16:39:10 Rose Rowan: so can we proceed now 16:39:13 Rose Rowan: ?? 16:39:33 Onzek88: can i pay for it throu paypal? 16:40:12 Rose Rowan: no 16:40:43 Rose Rowan: we are having problem with our paypal account now 16:41:10 Rose Rowan: we only accept western union for fast shipment and effective delivery 16:41:10 Rose Rowan: for now 16:41:10 Rose Rowan: ok 16:41:50 Onzek88: it's not secure payment 16:43:38 Rose Rowan: i am giving you 100% guaranty that your goods will get to you in the apropriate time 16:43:43 Rose Rowan: This is an agreement between you and our company that you will surely get the goods after your payment is confirm
16:43:50 Rose Rowan: MODE OF AGREEMENT
This seller shall supply the above stated items and the buyer shall accept the goods, the buyer shall made 100% deposit of the total amount before shipment.Once the payment is confirm by the seller,the seller is condemned to delivered the goods within the agreed delivery time which must not exceed.if there is delay in delivery,the buyer has the outmost right to reguest is money back in which the buyer must not hesitate to return the money any hesitation from the seller's part shall be seen as fraud 16:44:05 Rose Rowan: GOODS CONDITIONS
The sellers guarantee that all the Goods are brand new and international packaging directly from the factory except specified other wise according to the buyers request.Anything below the buyer's quality request should not be accepted by the buyer and must be returned immediately. 16:44:05 Rose Rowan: RETURN POLICY
The warranty given on the goods is 1 year international warranty and the company shall be responsible for any damaged during the shipment,which must be returned withing 10 working days.
16:44:09 Rose Rowan: Both parties are bind by this agreement,any act of fraud by either of the party shall face severe legal action from the offended party.
16:44:30 Rose Rowan: NOTE::::If the buyer or the seller fails to honour this agreement, the offended party has the absolute right to take the case to international chambers of commerce or any law enforcement agency. 16:44:30 Rose Rowan: In case found guilty of the charges level against either of the party by the offended party, the offender faces a severe legal action from the international chambers of commerce which shall result in immediate revocation of importing and exporting license of the offender or jail
16:44:31 Rose Rowan: This agreement shall be governed by the United kingdom exportation law and trinidad and tobago importation law. 16:44:33 Rose Rowan: ok 16:44:51 Onzek88: trinidad and tobago? 16:45:28 Rose Rowan: yes 16:45:31 Rose Rowan: through russian importation law 16:57:42 Rose Rowan: hello 16:57:43 Rose Rowan: are you there 16:59:52 Onzek88: yeap 17:00:27 Onzek88: i'm checking your site 17:01:52 Rose Rowan: ok
Странно, магазин физически в Англии, сайт хостится в США. Expiration Date: 2011-10-09 Creation Date: 2010-10-09 Last Update Date: 2010-12-17
И еще странность, что очень много ссылок на него на русскоязычных форумах и досках объявлений. Какая-то афера. С такими ценами у них и без российских покупателей отбоя бы не было.
onzek Магазин оооооочень хорошо кидает. Western Union - кидалово, никакой защиты, переводишь деньги чужому дяде добровольно. Если хочешь поиграть с ними, то скажи им, то оплатишь с помощью пейпел, когда они его починят. думаю, будешь ждать вечность.
Вы вообще читали преписку ТС с магазином??? 16:37:32 Onzek88: nice 16:39:10 Rose Rowan: so can we proceed now 16:39:13 Rose Rowan: ?? 16:39:33 Onzek88: can i pay for it throu paypal? 16:40:12 Rose Rowan: no 16:40:43 Rose Rowan: we are having problem with our paypal account now 16:41:10 Rose Rowan: we only accept western union for fast shipment and effective delivery 16:41:10 Rose Rowan: for now
Оч-ч-чень внимательно прочёл переписку. И свой пост написал как продолжение темы. В том смысле, что продавец говорит что с пейпэл проблемы, а значок не убирает. Если действительно временные проблемына момент разговора, а сейчас исправили, то в выборе способа платежа нет пейпэл. И насчёт того что там действительно афёра у меня пока уверенности нет, но ещё большей уверенности нет в том что там не кинут
Сегодня от нечего делать начал лазить по torg.ua. Нашел обьявление о продаже ipad2 64Gb +3G за 6500 гривен. Конечно же заинтересовало, но в обьявлении из контактных данных были только скайп и айсикью. Дальше немного переписки: [11:11:35] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: hello [11:11:53] я: I am interested in ipad2 [11:12:09] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: Apple 64GB iPad 2 with Wi-Fi + 3G [11:12:12] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: ? [11:12:14] я:correct [11:12:30] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: what color do you need and how many ? [11:12:30] я:white, just one [11:13:10] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: ok..are you ready to buy it now ? [11:13:47] я: well, is it in Ukraine already? [11:14:09] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: no [11:14:20] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: United Kingdom [11:14:42] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: and we ship to Unkraine takes 2 days [11:14:57] я: so what's the price for that one I need? [11:15:14] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: White color cost $ 820usd [11:15:18] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: Black color cost $ 800usd [11:17:31] я: the payment is through Paypal? [11:17:43] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: payment through Western Union [11:17:54] я: omg [11:18:05] я: I'm not going to pay 20% comission they charge in Ukraine, i insist on using Paypal. [11:18:12] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: no problem [11:18:25] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: we will give you discount for that comission [11:18:57] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: you will pay for white $ 800usd and use 20usd for western union comission [11:19:04] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: Understand [11:19:05] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: ? [11:19:12] я: well the reason why I would like to use Paypal is that it's much more secured transaction. [11:19:48] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: you have no problem, because you are doing bsuiness with legit company [11:19:56] я: do you have a website? [11:20:01] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: sure [11:20:40] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: www.montaleltd.appee.co.uk [11:22:31] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: Fill this detail for packaging before giving you the accountant Western Union where you will make the payment to before shiping to your home address.. [11:22:34] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: Full Name:- [11:22:36] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: Address:- [11:22:39] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: City:- [11:22:44] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: Postcode:- [11:22:48] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: Country:- [11:22:51] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: Phone Number:- [11:23:20] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: send to our email :- mobileplacelimited@gmail.com [11:23:23] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: do you understand ?? [11:24:03] я:Well don't rush. What is the guarantee that you will ship me a product after I make a transaction? отсылает какой-то голимый сертификат от BSI EMEA (институт, контролирующий качество) Правду сказать первое впечетление от сертификата довольное солидное, но хорошо увеличив и прибавив контрасности увидел что название компании было затёрто(раньше оно было черным и новое - серым было написано) Дальше-больше: [11:27:01] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: Fill those detail so we can proceed [11:27:40] я: on site I see that PayPal is also accepted [11:27:50] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: yes [11:28:00] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: but whe you order bulk amount [11:28:07] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: understand ? [11:28:13] я: ok, as you say. [11:33:22] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: you are there ? [11:33:31] я: yes [11:33:54] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: you will pay $800usd and use 20usd for comission [11:34:02] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: Ok?? [11:34:42] я: well I understand that I have to pay 800$ but I see no way you can influence on the comission [11:35:19] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: we do this for all our first tiem buyers [11:35:28] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: we give them discount [11:35:47] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: you are to pay 820usd but you will pay 800usd [11:35:53] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: Understand ? [11:36:11] я: no, but still go on ) [11:36:30] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: Here is the accountant western union detail where you will make the payment to [11:36:32] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: Full Name:- Philip Chris Address:- 34 ASH ROAD , City:- Aldershot State:- Hampshire Postcode:- GU12 4EZ Country:- UNITED KINGDOM Amount:- $800USD [11:37:19] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: Ok, do you get the detail right ? Я промолчал. Дальше... ) [13:32:19] я: I made a little research. Sorry to inform but I will not make any money transfer through Western union [13:33:01] я: if you will accept PayPal - in that case we would speak [13:34:53] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: ok [13:35:12] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: you want to pay through paypal [13:35:25] я: yes [13:35:28] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: ok [13:36:12] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: there is no problem [13:36:30] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: i will give you the paypla account [13:36:41] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: ok? [13:36:41] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: where you will make the payment to [13:37:39] я: don't rush please with the payment, I need to know everything in detail!By the way,actually I am almost sure your company is scam and moreover I didn't find any feedbacks of it. How can you explain that? [13:38:30] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: we are legit company [13:38:40] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: and i really want to do business with you [13:38:42] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: ok [13:38:45] я: at first [13:38:58] я: your certificate number is not found on the BSI EMEA site [13:39:01] я: why? [13:39:19] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: it can be network problem [13:39:26] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: nevermind i promise you tha best [13:39:55] я: probably, but I am a bit alert that you try to make me money transfer as soon as possible [13:40:03] я: serious companies don't do that [13:40:26] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: no [13:40:41] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: i mean that i will give you the paypal account [13:40:46] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: but not now [13:40:47] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: ok [13:41:14] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: i will talk to me company accountant so he will give me the paypal id [13:41:30] я: you have to understand that I will make a payment only to the cinfirmed Paypal account with the filled in form of what I am paying for [13:42:44] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: how do you mean ? [13:43:11] я: well let me log in into my paypal and I'll give you a link [13:43:52] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: link of what ? [13:44:12] я: of how the secured transaction has to look like. [13:44:29] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: can you pay half payment through Western Union first [13:44:36] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: when you get the ipad2 [13:44:42] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: you send the rest payment [13:44:50] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: ok? [13:45:43] я: no deals through western union. I talked to my friend like 5 minutes ago. He was scammed last year and asked me not to make any business through WU [13:46:23] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: but your friend dont know that we are legit company. [13:46:34] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: and you have nothing to worry about [13:46:44] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: if you wat i will give you my passport [13:46:56] я: I am not worrying, but I am careful. [13:46:57] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: for your safely [13:47:07] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: good [13:47:13] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: so you will get the best [13:47:21] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: trust me and we will do long time business [13:47:33] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: you are 100% reassured [13:48:14] я: the only assurance I have is your word. But I know you for 2 hours ) [13:49:01] я: I can't understand why your website doesn't have any feedback pages or guestbooks [13:49:14] я: that's one of the things that made me alert [14:03:02] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: ok [14:04:47] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: sale manger [14:09:25] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: you have nothing to worry about [14:09:30] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: because you are 100% safe [14:12:37] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: you will make the payment through palyapl [14:12:51] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: paypal** [14:12:56] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: ok [14:13:10] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: i will give you the paypal id [14:13:17] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: where you will make the payment to [14:13:18] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: ok [14:14:34] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: we will do long time business [14:14:36] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: with you [14:14:37] Mobile Place Ltd. говорит: ok Дальше он отправил мне паспорт и водителськое удостоверение какого-то 62-летнего деда. Я написал ему что хочу с ним поговорить. По голосу это какой-то индус со своей ломаной английской пытался меня убедить что он Джордж Аткинсон. Потом врубил видео где какой-то дед сидит за компом. Я его спрашивал почему у него рот не открывается когда он со мной разговаривает на что он мне ответил что у него цитирую : poor networking. Короче поржал, получил позитива.